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airlanes Moderator


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alistener Moderator


Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 959 Location: Second star to the right, and straight on till morning  |
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Airlanes,
Downloaded fine |
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jlrippeth Series Director


Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 787 Location: Oswego, IL  |
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone has them on MM I would appriciate a stream.
jlr _________________ MediaMax ID: jlrippeth
Multiply: http://jlrippeth.multiply.com/
I upload, download, beg, borrow, steal, and have in the past even been known to buy OTR. |
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Lacey Crew Member


Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 105
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Thank you airlanes. I thought I had this series in my WWII files but was surprised that I could not find it. It is an important look at how that generation fought a war.
Without getting into politics, one of the themes I feel history will place on the current administration is "Opportunity lost." The war on terror has been badly fought on a lot of fronts, but the biggest loss was the failure of the Bush administration to establish a "home front." To bring the average American into the battle on a personal level should have been his first priority. To explain what/who we are fighting and why is of primary importance in any war. This was understood by FDR and his administration, and NOT understood by the Washington of today, on either side of the aisle. _________________ Yours Truly, Lacey Dollar
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sskmc Listener


Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Texas USA  |
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Airlanes, neat series.
Scott _________________ "You can tell how big a person
is by what it takes to..........discourage him" |
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Insights48 Crew Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 242 Location: Home of the Evil Empire - Redmond, WA  |
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Lacey, please take this as an observation from someone who talks to people all the time as a career. This comment is NOT pro-war or anti-war.
I don't think the problem with America buying in or accepting the Iraq war is the fault of any political leader. It is that the American people of today are very different from the American people of the 1940s. We are not willing to sacrifice. We want an instant solution and become impatient when we do not get one. We do not have the willingness to understand the complexities of the Middle East (well, the evils of Hitler were more black & white so maybe that's not a good example).
America had been "tempered" (as in hardening steel) by the depression of the 30s before the war started. The country believed in individual sacrificing for the common good. "I'm doing it for the boys over there." They didn't question or try and second guess the leadership.
They also didn't have 24 hour news coverage that had to fill time and get ratings. They always will try and start a debate over anything to get listeners including how the war is being run. Can you imagine a news commentator questioning why a bombing run was conducted in bad weather over Germany? No.
OK. I will get back down off my soapbox. |
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Lacey Crew Member


Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 105
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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That is an often said observation and may be true.
However, the same could then be said for America at almost any time except after the Great Depression. The word "instant" of course would mean something different (steam ships made cross Atlantic travel "instant" when compared to sail. Trains made cross continent travel "instant" compared to wagons, etc.) and the word "sacrifice" would imply different things in each generation. But that is why each generation sees the last as "the greatest" and views any era except their own as a "golden age."
My comment had nothing to do with the war itself. It was the need for a strong home front in any conflict. THAT is what FDR understood and the Bush administration failed to establish.
After the initial shock of 9-11 the "war on terror" was allowed to become a department in a government agency. It was "someone else's problem" and just a way to generate inconveniences for our daily life. You get more acceptance that way. This is where you are right at the "perceived" impatiens of the American people. We seem less likely to sacrifice because no leader wants to ask us to sacrifice.
As for that impatiens, by the way, remember that WWII lasted only four years of forward progress. Anyone can be patient for a limited period of time when they see actual progress.
This comment is NOT pro-war or anti-war. It is just social observation.
OK. I will get back down off my soapbox. _________________ Yours Truly, Lacey Dollar
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notlesu Extra

Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 65
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps someone will answer this question---Who attacked us on 9-11?
I hear all the time that Iraq didnt attack us so what are we doing in Iraq? Who attacked us? We lost three thousand people in a sneak attack on our country ---who do we retaliate against? I recall seeing fanatic muslims dancing a jig in the streets after the World Trade Center disaster. That guy from Iran probably was dancing a jig---Sadam was probably dancing a jig, All the countries with a large muslim population were doing a jig. Who do you retaliate against!
I'm curious as to what you would do. To bog us down in a long drawn out war where the enemy is killing 30 or 40 American boys every month does not sound good. You are now president---how would you have retaliated? How would you have conducted the hostilities? |
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Thom28 Scanning


Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Byron, MI  |
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: What Are We Fighting For? (HQ256) WWII Series |
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| airlanes wrote: | Just uploaded a WWII series (HQ256) complete in 6 episodes called WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR? This was a short 1942 series presented by CBS from various army outposts featuring "experts" on the war. First broadcast features a speech by Edward R. Murrow. The last broadcast is an address by Sgt. Alvin York. Here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=bea0fbcac2a85fdfb163b6bb5b09832af0a849d26ca28c57
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Any way you could re-activate this link. I attemptd to download it tonight and it is not available. Thanks for your time |
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airlanes Moderator


Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 545 Location: Dallas, Oregon  |
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Afraid that the MF links are beyond re-activation. For some unexplained reason, MediaFire has simply deleted most of our accounts without a word of explanation. However, I have just uploaded WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR? to my 4shared account and you can download from there. Enjoy.
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